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BlueTongueDan
The Amphibian Moderator

United Kingdom
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Posted - 17/03/2009 :  23:23:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Anyone tried feeding their animals Phoenix Worms?
A friend recommended them to me and they sound great.

Taken from : http://www.premiumcrickets.com/Phoenix-Worms_31.html

Here's why you will like this new premium feeder insect...


Phoenix Worms™ are ready to serve when you take them home. There's no need to dust or gut load these insects before feeding your pet. Phoenix Worms™ naturally have 23 to 61 times more calcium than other commonly fed feeder insects! (See the nutritional comparison chart for more info.)

There's no need to culture them.

There's no need to feed the food.

They stay fresh in their cup for weeks at room temperature.

They do not make noise.

They have no odor.

They will stay in a jar lid--no escapees in the house!

You're going to enjoy watching your pet discover this new food.



Here's why your pet will love Phoenix Worms™...

They wiggle intensely which excites and entices herps.

They taste good (a guess, but herps greedily consume them).

They come in four sizes to satisfy most pets, from darts to dragons.

They stimulate the appetite of animals that don't readily feed.

They may halt or reverse the effects of metabolic bone disease.**



I ordered some a couple days ago from http://www.roachshop.co.uk/ and can say im very pleased.
I emailed Albin with a general quiery and he replied quickly and was very helpful.
I ordered a tub of Small and Medium.
They arrived real quick and were packaged real well.
Unfortunatly the worms are a lot smaller than I expected so im going to try to grow them on a bit.
I will give some to the mossies, and let you know what they think.

Anyway, heres a few photos.





Medium


Small

lewy
The Amphibian Administrator

United Kingdom
1356 Posts

Posted - 18/03/2009 :  09:37:43  Show Profile  Visit lewy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I've tried Calci Grubs which look like the same thing... just a different name, Cliff and Richard weren't that bothered about them, I'll be getting someone at the Doncaster show in June to try The Mighty Alberto on, but I wouldn't order online just because the delivery price is nearly as much as the worms themselves.

They tend to stay pretty small and eventually pupae like maggots.
Calcium wise it's probably much cheaper just to dust other foods with a good supplement, but as always with an amphibian variation in diet is good! I'll have a look at Roachshop though... if they're any good I'll buy some food from them.

thanks Dan!

Lewy

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lewy
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Posted - 18/03/2009 :  09:39:06  Show Profile  Visit lewy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Just looked - looks good... might have to try some roaches for The Mighty Alberto!

Lewy

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Spend_day
Pondweed

United Kingdom
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Posted - 18/03/2009 :  10:40:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
word of warning, these have been know to pass through amphibians undigested. i have a thread (from another forum) that i could post but i dunno if im allowed to?
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lewy
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 18/03/2009 :  12:48:55  Show Profile  Visit lewy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Post Away Spend day... as long as it's useful that's our only rule on here

I've heard if you pierce them first they should be okay, same with maggots and mealies. Still would be nice to see your post

Lewy

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Spend_day
Pondweed

United Kingdom
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Posted - 18/03/2009 :  14:38:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lewy

Post Away Spend day... as long as it's useful that's our only rule on here

I've heard if you pierce them first they should be okay, same with maggots and mealies. Still would be nice to see your post



here it be

http://www.reptileforums.co.uk/amphibians/264385-phoenix-worms-passing-undigested.html

the people who "make" them say its a good idea to pin them first. but i have to say i wouldnt rule out andrews (pollywogs) observasion but then again i would probably believe anything he says lol

Edited by - Spend_day on 18/03/2009 14:40:52
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lewy
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 18/03/2009 :  15:45:45  Show Profile  Visit lewy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks for that Spend day - I too would probably believe Pollywogs answer on there as well . The ones I got were from Doncaster Show last year and I bought them off andrew's table (although they were Calci-Grubs), Cliff and Richard didn't take them as easy as they do crickets etc, they didn't seem as eager, but the ones they ate past fine without problem. I had to throw a load as they pupated. Was going to try a culture but nothing came out... after a month or two I chucked them

Dan let us know how they go down, Try the pinning thing too

Lewy

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Paulusworm
Gill Grissom - Resident 'Bug-Man'

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Posted - 18/03/2009 :  20:47:53  Show Profile  Click to see Paulusworm's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Thought they sounded familiar:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermetia_illucens




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BlueTongueDan
The Amphibian Moderator

United Kingdom
157 Posts

Posted - 18/03/2009 :  21:21:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Spend_day

quote:
Originally posted by lewy

Post Away Spend day... as long as it's useful that's our only rule on here

I've heard if you pierce them first they should be okay, same with maggots and mealies. Still would be nice to see your post



here it be

http://www.reptileforums.co.uk/amphibians/264385-phoenix-worms-passing-undigested.html

the people who "make" them say its a good idea to pin them first. but i have to say i wouldnt rule out andrews (pollywogs) observasion but then again i would probably believe anything he says lol




Thanks for that.
Very interesting.
I will try the pinning method and keep you guys updated.



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